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Jesus Was A Zombie?

Well technically yes he must have been, well that and a fictitious character. Either way, it’s a catchy tune.
Oh and another curious thing, if he was born where the Bible said he was, why does Western Christianity always portray him as pale white, surely he was fairly tanned?

Reprehensible

One of my pet hates as an atheist (besides dogs, I really don’t like dogs!) is the indoctrination of young children into the Abrahamic faiths. Children up until the age of seven have minds that are basically sponges and soak everything up, like animals they go through a period of imprinting.
Parents that are serious about their faith like to begin brainwashing their children early and for reasons such as imparting their belief system on a child and of course using certain elements of religion as behavioural leverage. If challenged on this the parents usually react with its our child we do as we wish regardless of the fact the child is its own independent person/mind. Most religions of course seek to do away with independent reasoning early and rationality is replaced by dogmatic doctrine and submission.
Thankfully not all succumb, as children see past the myth that is Santa Claus in due time many see through the illusory nature of religion or at least question it.
Margaret Knight one of the most famous British atheist/humanists of the last century had this to say on the subject of religion and children;
If [a child] is normally intelligent, he is almost bound to get the impression that there is something odd about religious statements. If he is taken to church, for example, he hears that death is the gateway to eternal life, and should be welcomed rather than shunned; yet outside this he sees death regarded as the greatest of all evils, and everything possible is done to postpone it. The child soon gets the idea that there are two kinds of truth. The ordinary kind, and another rather confusing and slightly embarrassing kind, into which it is best not to inquire too closely. Now all this is bad intellectual training.
Religious parents, especially the more fundamental types like to get the ‘Sin’ word understood early but I think this Franz Kafka’s quote covers things nicely;
We are not sinful not merely because we have eaten of the tree of knowledge, but also because we have not eaten from the tree of life.
And of course religious dogma and indoctrination suppresses as much of life as it can. What doesn’t get embedded in the home will almost certainly try to be so in religious schools or mosques. As H.L. Mencken puts it;
Sunday school is a prison in which children do penance for the evil conscience of their parents.
Though I also quite like this quote by Victor Hugo;
There is in every village a torch: The schoolmaster – and an extinguisher: The Parson.
Sycophantic religious people will answer the above with something like its not just their will as a parent but its more importantly gods will for children to know about him, as Ruth Hermence Green puts it;
It’s possible to pull out justification for imposing your will on others, simply by calling your will God’s will.
And how often do we hear God or Allah’s will these days for justification? All the time. I want to draw on another very apt quote in closing from Green which says;
If the concept of a father who plots to have his own son put to death is presented to children as beautiful and as worthy of societies admiration, what types of human behaviour can be presented to them as reprehensible?

Rejection

One of the certainties in life is the fact that you can’t like everybody you meet. It could be a neighbour you don’t get along with, a work colleague, a family member or even a stranger you take a dislike to for a reason. Personally I try to get along with everyone but the reality is its not possible and neither do I want contact with some people.
So, if I don’t get along with someone for whatever reason I always try and remain cordial in dealings but keep communication to minimal and only when necessary, and I’m sure I speak for most people when I say there’s always someone in the our places of work that irritate us or we have nothing in common with. Honestly speaking I don’t have much dealings with extended family and if people bother me in the work place I try to make things easier by at least being polite and pleasant, in short I make an effort, to a point. As for my friends and close family, I genuinely love and care for them.
Now to the main point of the blog, what if by some bizarre chance I met say Jesus, Muhammed, Buddha, Krishna … even Thor and after some conversation and hanging out I decided and to coin an English phrase here ‘They weren’t my cup of tea’.
Lets say I found Buddha to be very dull and bland, Thor and his endless requests for arm wrestle contests got on my nerves, Jesus had bad flatulence and didn’t care who noticed and Muhammed picked his nose in public with no shame. Maybe after spending more time with them (if some even existed) that I came to the conclusion our views differed and we had nothing in common, for a start we’d be from different era’s and have different outlooks and views. It’s like those arguments you get when people state with utter conviction that the music from the 1960′s is superior to the 1970′s etc. For the record I love music from the 1980′s and will defend it passionately.
Getting back to the point, in religions such as Christianity and Islam if you reject the key figures such as Jesus and Muhammed then you’re on a one way trip to hell for rejecting them. In rejecting them you of course reject the religions that go with them, so its a no win scenario, though I’m sure if you disliked Buddha but liked his ideals and philosophies it would probably be totally cool! Rejecting Thor could be dangerous as he’s handy with a hammer but after a few beers and some honest talking I’m sure he’d be shaking hands with you and agreeing not everyone can get along but you ain’t in any trouble for it.

The Poor

So Pope Francis tells us we need to look to ‘helping the poor’ whilst he’s presented with a shiny gold ‘Fishermans ring’ during his inauguration today and surrounded by the wealth of the Vatican.

Religious Round Up News #2

Continuing with the serious here’s the latest bi-monthly round up, shocking from the very beginning.

Crossed Crosses

I’ve just been watching the Crosstalk show on RT, streamed to my ipad. The shows host Peter Lavelle was talking to three Catholics who didn’t seem to agree very much on biblical events and scripture.
If people of one particular branch (and a pretty big branch at that) cannot agree then what hope is there for other faiths getting along together? It literally felt like children arguing over a nursery story.

Tears

People often ask me what is a Humanist or Humanism? It can take a bit of answering sometimes but there’s a really good resume here. Personally I simply define it as a philosophy, a belief in human values through experience and imagination in which we deal with problems ourselves without resorting to religion. Of course Humanism is far deeper than that and the essence of what is about can be traced right back to the ancient Greeks and more recently the Age of Enlightenment.
Anyway, moving on to what I want to say. Sometimes I see things that affect me so deeply, they move me to tears. In this instance it was something very simple yet it will be etched in my mind for a long time. In essence I think it defines an aspect of my Humanism without using words at all, it is simply beautiful.
I chanced across this video on Facebook the other day but delved a little deeper into its back story so I more fully understood it, then watched it again and it affected me even more.
The story is simple, Serbian performance artist Marina Abramović had an intense relationship in the 1970s with another artist from Germany called Ulay. They met in Amsterdam, performed out of the back of a van. Over time they felt the relationship had run its course so they decided to walk the Great Wall of China and meet in the middle for one last hug and goodbye. After that they never saw each other again.
Skipping to 2o1o Abramović performed a retrospective exhibition called ‘The artist is present’ in which she sat across a table and shared a minute silence with total strangers, closing her eyes before each new arrival. Below is what happens when the man she parted from in China turns up.

 

Contentious

Things are quite tough here in the United Kingdom at present. There’s a growing divide between rich and poor, increasing unemployment and rising discontent with the current government. Over the years I’ve seen massive changes in social dynamics here and I can say with some clarity the gaps in society are showing more than ever.
The Arch Bishop of Canterbury Justin Welby has spoken out about recent unemployed and family benefit changes, with the government seeking to cut benefits in almost all areas.
Personally I feel torn about the Arch Bishop getting involved. Yes, he has a right to speak out, and I’m happy he has but I feel this is a secular area and religion shouldn’t be involved. People have argued most of the clergy live in large houses and are somewhat out of touch, others say the church needs to get itself in order before criticising. There’s already too much church involvement in government with the clergy holding seats in the House of Lords, yes we are a secular country but religion does have a sort of indirect say. If we look to history we see religion and politics don’t mix very well and never have.
The reality is, things are getting worse, an increasingly vehement right wing government is purging the poor, using spin and leaking stories of benefit scandals and fraud to the right wing tabloid press in order to stir up social unrest. Some of the UK’s inner cities are no longer good places to go and the north south divide has never been so visible as it is now.
It’s not just Britain though, its worldwide, millions claiming food stamps in America, mass unemployment in some European countries (I really feel for Greece and Spain) and families displaced in the countries that are currently doing well to make way for construction and the rich.
I think its fair to say grim times are ahead, and for a good while too. Growing populations, social unrest, jobs lost to technology and of course possible religious conflicts. The future isn’t going to be pretty and can only be sorted by common sense and pragmatic workable solutions.
Clasping your hands and praying won’t solve anything, and never has.

More Of The Same

Same story, different day. That’s how I feel about the election of the new pope. Argentina’s Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio is now Pope Francis I. What a pope from outside of Italy? Not really, he’s a second generation Italian immigrant, talk about keep it in the family!
What we will get is more of the same prejudice and ignorance by a geriatric that is out of touch. How on earth people can wait outside the Vatican for the news is beyond me, and frankly I feel, quite sad.
When I saw footage from inside the Vatican yesterday and saw all the opulence or… maybe even decadence I thought … if Jesus ever existed is this what he would have wanted or been about?
The Catholic church and everything it stands for sickens me to the core.

Tôi Kratistôi

The thing I notice when I debate with Evangelicals or Jehovah’s Witnesses is their lack of historical knowledge or rather their ignorance of it. Outside of the Bible nothing is really relevant, even when the facts presented are insurmountable. On the other hand of course if there is the vaguest of references to something historical within the Bible then it must be fact because…. you guessed it, the Bible said so!
Take for instance Alexander the Great, undoubtedly one of the greatest figures in antiquity who was widely wrote about and documented. There’s just no denying Alexander, in fact he founded some twenty cities that bore his name. I could of course go on extolling his virtues and story but I’d encourage you to go and read about him instead.
Alexander is alleged in some sources entered Jerusalem on his way down to conquer Egypt its said the locals opened the gates and presented him with the book of Daniel’s Prophecy which allegedly said a mighty Greek king would come and conquer the Persian empire.
There’s also again alleged mention of him in various other religious sources such as this one here quoting Zechariah and Josephus’s writings. Also of not are mention in the apocryphal book of Maccabees excluded from the Bible.
So lets examine some evidence and try and make some assumptions, bearing in mind this is still research in progress and I welcome input.
Firstly we have to bear in mind Alexander was on his way to conquer Egypt taking a coastal route, ports being of vital importance for his campaign. Tyre and Gaza fell to sieges of varying length before he entered Egypt in 332 BC and was proclaimed liberator and Pharaoh without any serious trouble. He stayed in Egypt a while before again crossing swords with his sworn foe Darius in modern day northern Iraq.
Jerusalem in the Persian Achaemenid (or second temple period) was merely a provincial town on no great importance, an estimated population of 1,500 some putting it as low as 500. So compared to some of the coastal cities Alexander was capturing Jerusalem was just a mere dot on the map. Whilst locals may have worshipped local gods I’m guessing there would be external influences too, from Egypt and Persia who had their own deities and controlled the area before Alexander. From a military aspect Jerusalem would logistically have no interest, god wise there was nothing there of note, especially compared to Egypt next door and the fact Alexander wanted to visit the oracle of the Siwa oasis.
Moving to religious evidence. Zechariah contains no names and is cryptic, Daniel is pure prophecy nonsense with no facts, I wouldn’t even call it ambiguous. Maccabees as mentioned is apocryphal and not in the Bible and Josephus the pro Roman historian mentions him allegedly. Lets forgive him a little and put this down to his writing style, even then its vague, after all this was hundreds of years after the alleged event, Alexander’s story was still popular but much would have been lost or embellished, we know Ptolomy I wrote about his adventures with Alexander and possibly there were other books in the great library at Alexandria but this was now destroyed possibly 48 BC according to some historians. Josephus would have been writing about Alexander some hundred or so years after this. I guess concluding we have to look at the fact Josephus was pro Roman having fully defected after his rebel days, Romans liked the myth of Alexander, several prominent Romans such as Pompey, Caesar and Augustus having visited his tomb in Alexandria. So in my view, it would make sense for Josephus to mention him and intertwine him with local folklore in order to increase its importance or was he even added to Josephus’s writings later? If we look at the period, though the Hellenistic period was long gone its history and tales were more recent and available, and very popular among the Romans.
If we look more into Daniel book 11 then nothing really is gained, vague references at best, kings of the north and south in conflict, visions and prophecy. Evangelical interpretations of events in Daniel 11 are bizarre to say the least. In any case the historical predications and historicity of Daniel are wrong.
What I find ironic about the Bible is that usually it seems very keen to name people through its pages yet when it could verify itself more by historical events it falls down badly. Christians will often argue that Josephus and Tacitus mention Jesus but references are vague. Josephus chronicles many uprisings in the area during the time before and after Jesus in detail yet not much is said of Jesus at all, if he has been so great then the pages he wrote would have been surely overflowing with his deeds? As for Tacitus, we have the briefest of mentions of Jesus and not by name, again this is much after and we have to take into account Tacitus wrote more about things such the invasion of Britain than a mere speck of information he offers about an alleged Christ. Other historians of the day give Jesus no mention.
Back to the main thread, did Alexander enter Jerusalem? Though I cannot write it off completely I would say there’s very little evidence for it, there’s plenty of evidence for Alexander being in other places but not there. Logistically it was of no importance, there was nothing of great value there and in the big picture of deities at the time it was of no interest. If he had have gone there and it was an interesting episode then I’m sure it would have been mentioned more especially how important he was. What we have is desperate references from Christian scholars trying to validate their faith. As the Bible was written over hundreds of years there would have been chances aplenty to mention Alexander, and not just him but other events, instead we get very little of historical veracity and when we do stumble across something vague we  get a solid Christian backing of a crumb of something that can be potentially used. I’ve combed my own books on Alexander, the local library and the internet yet there’s little tangible evidence at all Alexander entered Jerusalem.
You can argue all day though with hardcore Christians, Evangelicals and JW’s and they will have their own take on history, which is just the Bible or their version of it, however I’d like to point out that the Bible isn’t found in any History section in a library, ever wondered why?
Alexander was an historical behemoth, covered by Biographer Plutarch, tutored by Aristotle, an unparalleled personality and General and conqueror of much of the then known world, why doesn’t the Bible reference him clearly?
On his deathbed Alexander was asked whom his kingdom should pass? He replied rather laconically “Tôi kratistôi” which means “To the strongest” before passing away yet the successors who carved his empire up with war were never able to rival Alexander for he remains one of the strongest historical figures ever.

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